The Future of Stablecoins: Innovations and Opportunities in Canada

In the Blockchain Futures Conference in Toronto, host Josh Kriger joins Annelise Osborne, Chief Business Officer of Kadena, to explore how the platform is revolutionizing real‑world asset (RWA) tokenization. Against the backdrop of a former stock exchange building, Annelise unveils Kadena’s groundbreaking compliance-first RWA standard—drawing from ERC‑3643 and integrating ONCHAINID to embed KYC, AML, and jurisdictional controls within tokens. From launching a $25M grant program to supporting institutional-grade DeFi and TradFi projects, Kadena positions itself as a scalable, secure Layer 1, bridging the legacy financial world with blockchain’s decentralized future.

Key Topics Covered

• Kadena’s RWA Strategy & Token Standard
  Kadena’s RWA standard, inspired by ERC‑3643, embeds compliance features directly into token contracts—enabling KYC, AML, investor accreditation, and jurisdictional gating for institutional-grade tokenization. YouTube+7CCN.com+7Bitcoin Insider+7Kadena
  
  
• $25M Grant Program: Fueling Innovation
  Kadena committed $25M to support RWA tokenization, AI, DeFi, and gamefi projects, targeting use cases like private credit, real estate, supply chain, and identity. KadenaCCN.com+1
  
  
• TradFi‑DeFi Fusion via Infrastructure & Interoperability
  Built by ex‑JPMorgan developers, Kadena’s infrastructure aims for seamless TradFi and DeFi integration, offering security with its PoW architecture and interoperability across chains. Cosmos Ecosystem Blog+4CCN.com+4Bitcoin Insider+4blockchainreporter+2Kadena+2
  
  
• Institutional Readiness & Market Vision
  Annelise forecasts the RWA market reaching $10 trillion by 2030, contingent on compliant infrastructure, regulatory clarity, and interoperability—key enablers for institutional adoption. AInvest+1
  
  
• Developer Focus & Ecosystem Growth
  Kadena offers dual architecture with Pact smart contracts and Chainweb EVM, backed by grants encouraging developers, especially those building real-world asset tokenization platforms. Blockworks+11Blockworks+11AInvest+11
  
  

Episode Highlights

“Our RWA token standard draws on the widely recognized ERC‑3643 protocol and integrates ONCHAINID…compliance features directly within token contracts.” — Annelise Osborne YouTube+7CCN.com+7Blockworks+7

“$25 Million Real World Asset Grant Program…will foster innovation…bridging traditional finance and decentralized finance.” — Annelise Osborne Kadena+1

“Fractionalized tokenization of private credit, real estate, or fine art is a growing trend…enabling everyday investors to participate securely.” — Annelise Osborne AInvest+1

“Compliance means meeting the complex regulatory requirements…this RWA token standard lowers the barrier for everyday investors.” — Annelise Osborne Cosmos Ecosystem Blog+8Bitcoin Insider+8CCN.com+8

“We’re both the Hoodies and the Suits.” — Annelise Osborne, highlighting Kadena’s dual-rooted identity in both tech innovation and financial compliance. x.com+5CCN.com+5Blockworks+5

People and Resources Mentioned

• Annelise Osborne – Kadena CBO
  
  
• Kadena
  
  
• RWA Token Standard (inspired by ERC-3643 / T-REX)
  
  
• ONCHAINID
  
  
• Chainweb EVM & Pact Smart Contract Language
  
  
• Grant Program (RWA, AI, DeFi)
  
  

About Our Guest

Annelise Osborne is Chief Business Officer at Kadena, a scaled, proof-of-work Layer 1 blockchain competing at the intersection of TradFi and DeFi. With a vision for institutional-grade tokenization, she leads Kadena’s strategy for RWA infrastructure, developer grants, and standards engineering to catalyze future-ready digital finance.

Guest Contacts

• Website: https://www.kadena.io
  

Transcript:

Annelise Osborne: I'm really motivated by the whole idea of upgrading finance. And I think there's so much that blockchain can do about uplifting finance. If you think about it, we're in a former stock exchange building and it's empty now because finance is different than it used to be. And I feel like blockchain is another iteration and also the merging of Troutbuy and DeFi. So I'm super excited to be a part of bringing those together.

Vincent Kadar: We realized that capital markets wanted a company like ours to be publicly traded.

Alex McDougall: And Canada's a phenomenal market for a stablecoin. We have $400 billion in FX trading every day, $3.6 billion across the border with the U.S. every day. There's $316 billion of Canadian and international treasury reserves around the world.

Jelena Djuric: stablecoins are fundamentally a new technology that, you know, are building blocks for applications, again, fintech source of applications to really take root and be global and be accessible to, you know, billions of people.

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Josh Kriger: Hi everyone, Josh Krueger here, co-host of The Edge of Show, live in Toronto at the Blockchain Futures Conference, and I'm here today with a very special guest, Annalise Osborne, the Chief Business Officer at Kadena. Great to have you on the show.

Annelise Osborne: Thank you for having me, Josh, great to be here.

Josh Kriger: It's been a while since we've talked about Kadena, but I also learned while we were chatting that you're also a William & Mary grad, so that's great, liberal arts folks coming together in the blockchain industry. Love it. And I guess we'll go into what's going on with Canadian, but fundamentally, what brings you to Toronto this week?

Annelise Osborne: I love consensus. I love blockchain futurists. It's my second blockchain futurist conference here in Toronto. I'm really motivated by the whole idea of upgrading finance. And I think there's so much that blockchain can do about uplifting finance. If you think about it, we're in a former stock exchange building. it's empty now because finance is different than it used to be. And I feel like blockchain is another iteration and also the merging of TradFi and DeFi. So I'm super excited to be a part of bringing those together.

Josh Kriger: Yeah, that narrative concept has been around for a while, but it feels like it's really starting to gel. I'm curious how Kadena is involved over the five years you guys have been around in terms of supporting that sort of integration of those two things.

Annelise Osborne: Sure, we've been more, we were founded by two JP Morgan developers who left JP Morgan's innovation lab to create a public chain. And so they recognized previously about the benefits of financial settlement on blockchain. And we've created a kind of a crypto world there. But the idea now is we're kind of creating the TradFi world as well. We just launched an RWA token standard. We have our first tokenized fund company that we launched today that we announced. So we're super excited about building out both the TrapPi and the DeFi from a regulated perspective to kind of bring that together.

Josh Kriger: And is this an RWA standard you're hoping that is adopted by the whole industry?

Annelise Osborne: Well, it's 3643, but it's on our smart contract language. It's in PACT, so it's the same.

Jelena Djuric: It's generally the same.

Annelise Osborne: We also are becoming EVM compatible with the idea of we want to work within the ecosystem because I think there's a lot of sharing going on and interoperability is very important. So we will have 3643 on our EVM chains and then we'll have a similar RWA token standard on our other chains.

Josh Kriger: Well, and what are some of the more pioneering projects in the RWA space that you're seeing maybe within your ecosystem or just broadly? For example, one of the investor our company tokenized durian, which I thought was a really good use case. But what are you seeing out there?

Annelise Osborne: I mean, that's really cool. I think probably the first is payments, right? Tokens is like the idea of payments. We're working on that. We are working on tokenization of funds as well. We're working on supply chain tokenization projects. We're working on fan engagement, which is also tokenized. And I think that a lot of it is when we don't have to talk about tokens or blockchain, I think that's where we're going to.

Josh Kriger: Yeah, I love that. It's great to see that I think these use cases for blockchain can come to life with a little bit less regulatory red tape, right? Where these are ideas that have been around a while, but now the coast is clear. It's just, you know, go, go, go, innovate, disrupt. What are you looking forward to over the next year in terms of changes to regulation, both in Canada, North America, globally, and what sort of new opportunities that could open up for Cadenas?

Annelise Osborne: Sure, very much so building. So institutions are very excited about building and using blockchain technology. I think there were concerns before because I think it was gray in the regulatory front. And now the whole idea of having black and white with an SEC that is more interested in figuring out innovation and also obviously the new administration is very kind of pro innovation and technology. I think that's huge. And I think that resonates because globally, I know a lot of institutions that are working outside of the U.S. to try to create projects and sandboxes using public chains, for example, whereas I think within the United States, it's going to be definitely Europe building and growing this year. And if you kind of look two, five and ten years out, I think so much between now and in two years, all the building and the adoption is really starting. And in five years, we're not going to talk about crypto.

Josh Kriger: That's a bold prediction. You are a thought leader. You recently published a book on the industry. I'm curious what folks can learn from sort of unpacking maybe some of the materials that you created.

Annelise Osborne: Sure. My book is called From Hoodies to Suits, Innovating Digital Assets for Traditional Finance. The whole idea is education. I think the industry is held back by education, regulation and interoperability. So it's for the crypto curious. It's to understand what is this technology. I don't really get it. I also have tech people really enjoy it because it teaches them about finance and why finance matters to the tech. And so the generations are changing. Millennial and Gen Z who are very digital are looking for investment opportunities, payments, different types of experiences. And I think we're the future. We're just building.

Josh Kriger: Great. Well, I just learned about the book, but I'm definitely going to unpack it. And great to have you on the show today. People want to learn more about you and Kadena. Where should they follow? Maybe on X and websites, whatnot.

Annelise Osborne: Sure. I'm on LinkedIn for the most part, Annalise Osborne. And then I'm on X as well, but not as often. But I would love for you to reach out. Happy to have conversations.

Jelena Djuric: Thanks so much.

Josh Kriger: Yeah. Thank you.

Jelena Djuric: Thank you.

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Richard Carthon: Hey everybody, Richard Carthon here live at the Blockchain Futures Conference here in Toronto. And I have Jurek who is working on something really awesome I learned about. I don't know if y'all know this about me, but I really like the Cosmos ecosystem. He just told me about this awesome stable point that's being built on top of it called Noble. So, pleasure to meet you. Please tell us more about what you have going on.

Jelena Djuric: Yeah, absolutely. So Noble was born as a project back in late 2022, right after the Terra collapsed, I'm sure you remember. So at that point, we didn't have any native stablecoins in the Cosmos ecosystem. So we decided let's build a protocol, a asset issuance protocol that could support stablecoin issuance and onboarding of stablecoin liquidity. into the Cosmos ecosystem. We've since grown quite a lot from those early days. And most recently, as I mentioned, we launched the Noble Dollar, USDN. It is a, we call it a composable yield stablecoin. So it is a dollar peg stablecoin, you know, just like others, of course, that you're familiar with. But the difference is that the yield of the Treasury bills that collateralize this dollar stablecoin get passed on to application developers, end users, and so on and so forth. So there's a lot in between there that obviously I didn't necessarily cover, but basically Noble were focused on asset issuance of stablecoins and also real world assets like tokenized bonds, but also we are focused on the application layer, so making it really easy to, again, build performance stablecoin-centric apps in a way that are useful to everyday people.

Richard Carthon: It's essential, and I appreciate you bringing that out, and for a lot of reasons. One, the stablecoin Simplecoin ecosystem all over is a very growing and thriving area within the Web3 space. And so you kind of carve out your own niche within mobile and how you're going and addressing it. What are the things that are coming up that you think will continue to be value adds to people who are looking to engage more on the Simplecoin side of their business?

Jelena Djuric: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're thinking about it from the perspective of a builder, the fact that we have, you know, growing liquidity of stable points, I think makes it really exciting for, you know, new kinds of applications, you know, new entrants within the developer community to kind of come in and you know, build, you know, the fintech type of applications that are crypto native from day one. I actually think only really now is both the infra side of the equation ready, right? Like from a scalability, you know, fee perspective to, you know, the stablecoin side of things where you are increasingly getting, you know, regulatory clarity and, you know, mainstream adoption and awareness of this new technology, right? Like stablecoins are fundamentally a new technology. that are building blocks for applications, again, fintech source of applications to really take root and be global and be accessible to billions of people. And so, again, it depends on which side of the coin you're looking at it, but there's really just exciting new tooling, new infrastacks, again, available for builders to take advantage of this growing market. I mean, just five years ago, the stable coin market was $5 billion. Five years later, in 2025, it's down to almost $250 billion. And there's projections that, you know, in the next five years, up until 2030 and beyond, it'll be $1-2 trillion market. So, you know, it's, again, that's all growing. It's being more accessible for developers and end-users alike.

Richard Carthon: Yeah, I really appreciate that explanation. I think a lot of people don't really understand how much is coming into the stablecoin market and where the value is and why you should consider looking to build and be part of something like Noble. Now, we are here in Canada and Toronto and we are at the Blockchain Futures Conference. There's a lot of places that you could have been. Why did you decide to come and participate in this particular event?

Jelena Djuric: Great question. I'm originally from Toronto. I've recently made my way to New York City, where I now live. But this is my hometown, and it's great to be among friends and the community. Yeah, so basically I'm from here. Awesome.

Richard Carthon: Well, it's good to have you here. For people who want to learn more and connect with you and learn more about mobile, how can they do that?

Jelena Djuric: Yeah, I am an avid user of crypto Twitter. So find me on X or Twitter. It's at Jelena underscore noble. You can check out our project, of course, noble dot x, y, z is the website or follow us also on Twitter. Noble underscore x, y, z. Awesome.

Josh Kriger: Thanks so much for your time. Hi everyone, Josh Krueger here, co-host of The Edge Hub Show, live at the Blockchain Futures Summit in Toronto, Canada. And I'm here with Vincent Kedar, the CEO of Polymath. It's great to have you on the show. Welcome. Thanks, Josh. And I guess, yeah, we last connected in Dubai. Are you still on a couch? Yes, yes. Talking about our health. And longevity, still into longevity? I am, yeah. Yeah, mine started with, like, I read a book, How Not to Die.

Vincent Kadar: And that would actually kind of transform me.

Josh Kriger: Is that Brian's book?

Vincent Kadar: I think it was Dr. Krieger or something of this nature.

Josh Kriger: Another Krieger? Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Brian John's, Brian Armstrong has a book, How Not to Die, too. And I used some of his products. Oh, OK. But speaking of living and sort of prospering, I mean, what a change, of course, for our industry over the last few years. I mean, you joined Pug Mountain CEO in 2021. Maybe give us a little bit of history on what's happened since then with your organization and sort of where you guys are at at this moment.

Vincent Kadar: Yeah, for sure. And so it's been quite the journey. So I joined in October 2021. At that point in time, we were one organization building a layer on blockchain. And at that point, we were separating the organization into two separate entities, our not-for-profit PolyMesh Association, and then PolyMath, the for-profit entity. So we carved out all these wonderful, all this wonderful intellectual property. We domiciled that in Switzerland, and now it operated independently for three years. Polymath then went on its own journey to build a platform and an application for the industry to tokenize anything, any real-world asset. And we did it exclusively on Polymesh, our layer one, because we're loyal. And it's our baby, right? We launched our baby. Now, look, wind the clock forward, actually, three years. And today, what we announced is that we are acquiring Polymesh back into Polymath as a subsidiary, but operating it as it was.

Josh Kriger: So why the change?

SPEAKER_03: Why the change?

Josh Kriger: We think that the industry... I guess regulations are more friendly for... Well, I think what started happening on the Polymath side is that we were becoming more inquisitive.

Vincent Kadar: We realized that capital markets wanted a company like ours to be publicly traded.

Jelena Djuric: We tested that out with the market.

Vincent Kadar: We've got a great banker that we signed on as well and a syndicate that's forming. to represent us.

SPEAKER_03: And when we started going down this journey, and this was back in 2024, I had a discussion actually with the PolyMesh Association CEO and said, you know what, I think we're stronger together than we are apart.

Vincent Kadar: And maybe alignment for the industry is a good thing, right? Because now you can invest in a publicly traded company with a layer one, right at the top go, Or you can still invest, actually, via the token, actually, at the bottom core, at the fundamental blockchain.

SPEAKER_03: And anyway, that thesis started to actually resonate well with the industry.

Vincent Kadar: And being able to, like, we will be the first company out of the gate. And I would say we're increasing the stakes for other layer ones that are in our space. Unless you're publicly traded, I would say, like, what is your governance model? We are now governed as a public company. with the board and fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. Whereas with the tokens, well, unless you're a DAO or some other type of structure, maybe you don't have that same responsibility.

Josh Kriger: Who's the accounting firm for that? Good question.

Vincent Kadar: Who is the accounting firm?

Josh Kriger: I mean, I think it's an interesting thing, because I know Animoca Brands has been doing some complex accounting sort of reconciliation as well, trying to sort of lead the industry on the accounting side. And I think what you're doing is a forcing function for more accountability.

Vincent Kadar: Right. Especially in this industry where tokenization of real world assets is a capital markets play. You know, this is not a set of payment rails. We're not, you know, tokenizing, you know, gaming credits or, you know, or like NFTs.

Jelena Djuric: This is people's money and it's all about capital formation. So you got, when you do this, you got to do this right.

Vincent Kadar: And like I said, we were like, I was so worried about, you know, A, the assets that come on our chain, B, have they been verified, and then C, just being able to scale this up.

Jelena Djuric: And you've got one shot at this, right?

Vincent Kadar: You've got to build trust in all aspects of what you're doing. If you don't have trust, and not just from the issuers on our platform, but from the capital markets industry, you've got nothing. Like, we're dead out of the water.

Josh Kriger: You guys have also invested in a number of the leading projects in the industry. What, I guess, differentiates your chain from other chains that are doing RWAs? Obviously, there's not going to be one winner here in terms of the RWA race. I've had a lot of interviews recently with other chains doing something in the RWA space. So what's your sort of broader thesis on the market and some of the other portfolio companies that you're working with?

Vincent Kadar: Right. Yeah. So, very good question. I'll say this full stop, is that RWAs is all we do. That's been our sole purpose since inception. So it was called something else before, you know, and when we were conceived, we first started building an application on Ethereum, and that's when we pivoted to building our own Layer 1. Purpose built for security. Purpose built for tokenization of real world assets. Now that narrative only started a couple of years ago. Before it was called securitization. Now it's like securitization of real world assets. It's a more sexier theme and people really understand that and it truly is everything. What gets me excited is about, I'll say the pipeline of activity that we see of issuers that are coming on chain. law of real estate. Real estate is the number one asset that's highly illiquid. You know, people understand it. People actually feel highly secure actually investing in real estate.

Josh Kriger: Now you've got an alternative way to invest, right? Well, why is it better than like a REIT, for example, or like, you know, Fundrise?

Vincent Kadar: Yeah, so very good question, right? So a REIT can technically go bankrupt, but all the underlying assets are still there. Buildings are still there. They're all viable entities. Well, if you're investing via token into a commercial real estate building or even a residential, you're investing directly into that asset. You're a fractional owner of that asset.

Josh Kriger: Yeah, I think that's one of the most exciting things that I think is to come with the new regulatory climate. Any other projects in your portfolio, recent partnerships that get you excited that you could share?

Vincent Kadar: I'll say that we announced definitely a relationship with BitGo, so they're our new digital custodian. Zobia, a new digital custodian as well. In Canada, Balance and Tetra Trust actually are digital custodians as well. You've got to build that entire ecosystem in order to create a viable market for people to be able to issue actually on-chain.

Josh Kriger: So it's a... And are you looking for custodians globally at this point?

Vincent Kadar: I think we've got actually a fair share now of digital custodians that we have to cover the world. We have a lot of issuance platforms actually that have now come on board as well. We're working with a large... You mentioned REIT. We're working with a large REIT with billions of dollars of assets and they want to start now providing an alternative mechanism in order to invest in real estate.

Josh Kriger: That's really exciting. It's great to catch up with you and learn all the cool things you're doing. What's the ticker on the new company?

Vincent Kadar: That hasn't been defined. We're still waiting, actually, for that official announcement. But follow us, actually. Just Google PolyMesh. Analytics Insight is the RTO shell. It has an AI platform and an ATS in Europe that we're going to utilize and transform that into the venue that we need.

Josh Kriger: Are you on X?

Vincent Kadar: I'm on X. I'm on Twitter, I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Instagram. Telegram, Signal.

Josh Kriger: Vincent Kadar. Yeah, that's it. Vincent, great to meet you again and congrats on all your success. Thank you, thank you.

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Alex McDougall: Thank you for joining us. No problem, my friends. Thanks for having me.

Richard Carthon: Hey, well, we want to learn more about what you are building, so tell us a little bit more about that.

Alex McDougall: Absolutely. So Stablecorp has been building a Canadian dollar stablecoin in various iterations since 2020. We have been early on the non-USD stablecoin train. and the market is finally catching up with us. So we're very excited today to announce that Coinbase Ventures is invested in Stablecorp and we're partnering with Coinbase to bring QCAD, our Canadian dollar-denominated stablecoin, to the masses in Canada. And Canada is a phenomenal market for a stablecoin. We have $400 billion in FX trading every day, $3.6 billion across the border with the U.S. every day, there's $316 billion of Canadian and international treasury reserves around the world, It's kind of a quietly awesome currency. So yeah, let's digitize it. Every single transaction that happens with Canadian dollars can be done better with stable coins. And it's time to make that all happen. Absolutely. Well, congratulations on that big news. That's mass news.

Richard Carthon: And obviously there's been a lot going on to get to a place where you're able to make this announcement. So what has been like the build up to this moment and what does it mean now moving forward?

Alex McDougall: Totally. And especially with non-USD stablecoins. When you look at Tether and you're in a country with a destable or with an unstable currency, they're willing to deal with all kinds of weird UX and download MetaMask and figure out stuff just to get a little bit of stability with the US dollar stablecoin. When you look at Canada or other markets that aren't US dollars, there needs to be a lot more for people to realize the value of a stablecoin. And so a ton of what we've been building and a ton of what it took to get to where we are is all the deep infrastructure. Sure, some of it's regulatory side of the house. A lot of it is connectivity with advanced payment rails. So an example that we always use of kind of a perfect use case for our stablecoin, Brazilian students coming to Canada. So we built one simple consumer-facing application. Brazilian students can do a local transaction in Brazil with PIX, which is their real-time rails, gets converted into USDC on Bitso, goes from USDC to QCAD on a decentralized exchange, and then from QCAD right into the universities using FIAT integrations that we've built. So all the user needs to do, from Brazil, is initiate a transaction there, put in their student number, never needs to set up a Canadian bank account, whole thing costs about 90% less than using traditional fiat rails, and it all happens instantly. But it takes a long time to build all of the rails, to make it seamless and make it easy, takes a long time. So that's really been what we've been building for three, four, five years. We tried initially just launching it and seeing if it would come. That's not how non-USD stable coins work. You need to build out the rails. But now that we've done it, it's game time.

Richard Carthon: where you don't have to know about all the things that are happening in the background. You just press these couple of buttons and you're done.

Alex McDougall: You're to that point. So obviously this is the first step and it's many more things that are coming.

Richard Carthon: Are there other things that you kind of tease up that are coming out that you're currently working on?

Alex McDougall: Yeah, so we're looking at doing a yield-bearing version of the coin at some indeterminate future point. So think about it as kind of a QCAD checking and a QCAD savings. We're also looking at kind of listing it all across all of the exchanges in Canada. We also have a lot of payment integrations and some really, really big payment rail partners, like globally some of the largest out there. We built some buy now pay later facilities that are just pure advanced programmatic payment rails. And all of this has just been sort of built up in the pipeline. So we're super excited to get it all out of the door.

Josh Kriger: That's awesome, man. Cool. So much that's going on.

Richard Carthon: People need to learn more about what's happening. And before we learn where they can connect with you, we're here. We're at Blockchain Futures Conference here in Toronto.

Jelena Djuric: You're in your hometown.

Richard Carthon: You were telling me earlier before we got on how when all these conferences come to town, basically it's a marathon. You're at all these different conferences. So why did you choose to participate in this particular event?

Alex McDougall: Yeah, absolutely. We've done Futurist for three or four years now. It is the premium Canadian digital asset conference. There's lots of other bigger ones and Collision has some digital crypto stuff to it. Futurist is dedicated to this. Tracy and the Untraceable team do an unbelievable job putting it on. The usual venue for it, Rebel across the way, is a fascinatingly unique venue. And it's the one time when Canada does a wonderful job of traveling. We all get together at ConsenSys in Austin when it's there. We all get together at Bitcoin Miami. We all get together at all the Solana conferences overseas. We don't do enough at home. And Futurist is the one time where everybody just cuts the shit and gets together. And so it's always a great time. And so we will support Futurist until it's not there to be supported anymore. Absolutely. We're glad we're able to do this on your home turf.

Richard Carthon: For people who want to learn more about what you have going on and connect with you and learn more about the company, how can they do that?

Alex McDougall: Stablecorp.ca is our website. Follow us on LinkedIn. You can follow us on Twitter as well. And we're out there. Find us and let's start building some stablecoin use cases. Absolutely. Alex, appreciate it. Awesome. Thanks, dude.

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