There seems to be no end to what’s possible in the NFT world. From art to real estate, and now onto the film industry, the growth opportunities are exponential. On today’s show, Eathan Janney and Josh Kriger are joined by Gorav Seth, Co-Chair of Film Financing at Mogul. Gorav has over 15 years in corporate finance and a background of over a decade working in the film and entertainment industry as a financier. He sees the vision and potential behind NFT in film and is now part of the team pioneering this development through Mogul. Gorav shares how NFT Film poses benefits not only for film buffs but, most importantly, for independent filmmakers in need of funding. There is more to know about this disruption in the film industry. Keep your ears glued to this episode to learn all about where NFTs meet movies for the cutting edge.
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Mogul: The Next-Gen Platform Where DeFi And NFTs Meet Movies, Featuring Gorav Seth, Mogul’s Co-Chair Of Film Financing
This spotlight episode is sponsored by Mogul. It features Gorav Seth, the Co-Chair of Film Financing at Mogul, a global NFT and DeFi platform for film and entertainment. In six months, they have become one of the world’s largest NFT platforms. Gorav has worked for many years in corporate finance and investment banking at leading independent investment dealers based in Toronto.
During his career, Gorav has worked on over $4 billion of transactions successfully advising corporate clients on transactions ranging from M&A and restructuring to IPOs, RTOs and financings. Prior to his career in capital markets, Gorav has spent over a decade working in the film and television industry as an entertainment manager and financier. Gorav, welcome to Edge of NFT. It’s great to have you here.
NFT In Film: It’s a decentralized kind of community that’s making decisions on what they want to see and be able to interact with the projects themselves.
It’s great to be here. It’s quite the intro.
It’s exciting to have you. Many different folks have told us that we had to get you guys on the show and learn about all the exciting stuff you’re doing. I’m an LA guy. I’ve been here for more than seven years and you can’t help but get a sense of the changing climate in the film industry. Eathan and I interact with a lot of folks that are in that industry. Your perspective, having been one of the first and only folks to leverage blockchain NFTs in a film so far is going to be helpful for our readers. I’m personally excited to have this conversation.
One thing about LA is that the climate there is pretty consistent.
As an aside from that, David Lynch was doing a daily weather report where he makes a five-minute YouTube video. He lives in LA and he goes on and makes a YouTube Live. He says, “It’s going to be sunny today.” That’s it. He makes a quick video and gets off. He draws random ping pong balls from a bucket and tells you what the number of the day is. It’s pretty awesome.
I tend to open my door and decide, “Do I wear a hoodie this day or no hoodie.” That’s the extent of my weather preparedness.
Luckily, that aside was relatively on topic with David Lynch being a famous film director. We want to talk about Mogul here a little bit more and start from the beginning here. How did the idea for Mogul come about?
The genesis for this platform was born from the story about how the movie Deadpool got made. The crux of it is that Ryan Reynolds had been trying to get Deadpool made for many years. All the studios had passed on getting that movie made partially because it was an R-rated movie in the comic book universe. Conventionally, the 15 to 24-year-old kids are your target audience. They said that would never work.
Ryan Reynolds is compelled to make this movie that he went out and made a trailer. He put that trailer online and the fans went nuts. Essentially, it forced the studio’s hand to make that movie. We all know the success of Deadpool. I’m a big fan of it. It’s done well at the box office. The idea there is that they were able to democratize the decision-making process on how that film got made by giving power back to the people that consume the content.
Usually, movies are made the other way around. They’ll have people that come up with ideas and scripts. There will be some people in an office somewhere that are screening for them and they’ll decide what they think is or is not commercially viable. They make that movie and at the end of it, they’ll do a screen test for audiences. They’ll say, “Was the ending too harsh? Should we not have killed the dog?” People hate dogs dying. I’m a big animal fan. That would not be something I’d like to see in a movie. They do those tests to audiences and they tweak the movie accordingly.
Whereas here with Mogul, the point is to leverage blockchain technology to give power back to the fans. Also, to let them take part in a place of those people where it’s a decentralized community that’s making decisions on what they want to see and be able to interact with the projects themselves, the cast and give feedback where you have this loop. That way, the creatives that are making this content have an aligned and well-versed audience that is going to create this network effect on anything that they do. It’s taking away those intermediaries that are notorious for taking advantage of both the people behind the camera, the business people, and even the fans themselves.
Why blockchain? Why not crowdfunding? I think I know the answer to this question but I’m curious.
I talked about that circular loop and one of the best things that I’ve learned through my experience of crypto is that you need to engage when you embrace crypto and utilize all the functionality and capabilities of it. Having a decentralized platform, we have some technology, quadratic voting so people can’t take advantage of the votes. We’re trying to level the playing field and provide that information, that circular loop where people can take place, earn and get involved in some of these projects that get made, which you wouldn’t have conventionally in crowdfunding. I looked at that as a very one-way street.
It’s more of a transactional relationship and you have some engagement. You’re updating the fans but there’s not as much of a connectivity tissue to that format is what I’m getting from what you shared. That leads to the next question which is, tell us more about Mogul’s NFT marketplace. When’s it being launched? What can we expect there in terms of the kinds of NFTs that it may include?
Aside from our DeFi platform, we’re launching this full NFT marketplace targeted towards the entertainment industry. That is happening in mid-September of 2021. In conjunction with the launch of our marketplace, we have an NFT drop, a series of NFTs. We’ve collaborated with a company on a film called Reboot Camp. They have a number of different well-known personalities in there. We have Ja Rule. I’m sure everybody’s seen in the Fyre Festival documentary.
He’s all over NFTs though. That guy loves NFTs.
He became a meme with the entire Fyre Festival phenomenon that happened.
The sandwich.
He sees the power of NFTs to do the right thing by crowd creation and community building. He was on stage when the DINOMONKS launched their NFT drop and saw him hanging out with Roman Tirone, one of our friends who has been on the show. Anyway, that’s a little bit of a tangent.
We have him. We have David Koechner from Anchorman and a few other great casts. We have an adult film star named Nikki Andersson. She’s also doing an NFT drop. What we’re doing is we’re collaborating with the filmmaker to create NFTs out of behind-the-scenes or deleted scenes from the film and turning those into NFTs, and building some rewards and experiences for the fans.
There’s a premiere taking place at the Chinese Theatre on Hollywood Boulevard. It’s where the Academy Awards and everything takes place. They’re doing an event there where all the casts are going to join. Anybody that bids and wins NFT will be able to go there and attend for themselves, meet the cast and interact with them to make this 2D to a 3D type of dimensional experience. That’s pretty interesting. There’s some art that was made in the film that we’re turning into NFTs. People who have been on those NFTs will be able to get the physical piece as well.
It’s great to see people pushing the boundaries and seeing what you can do. I want to dive in even deeper here about how Mogul will impact some things. You could think of three key elements in the film industry, you got production, distribution and fan participation. How would you say you guys are going to affect each of those elements?
I’ve had quite a bit of experience in the film business and on the capital funding side as a banker. For the creatives in the industry, it’s very much of a top-down centralized decision-making process for how films get made and they get distributed. Hollywood is all about stars and there are a few people that have a lot of power. You have the studios that make their big films. You have independent producers that are trying to make their own projects.
Let’s take the perspective of an independent producer or a creative from that aside. If you’re trying a make a film or some type of creative work and you’re trying to raise capital for that project, you’re doing it very much in a vacuum so you don’t know what is and what is not going to do well. You have to build an audience and get distribution. Raising capital is difficult because the people on the other side or the investors have no data points on whether this film will do well or not. They don’t know how this film compares to other projects with a similar budget, cast and return profile.
By putting this on the blockchain and onto our platform where the users can interact, the filmmakers get to tap the global audience of potential investors and participants or consumers of that content. You know now that as a producer of content, there’s going to be a bunch of people who are going to care about it and support it with their wallets, and they’re going to tell their friends about it. That’s powerful because instead of trying to scrape together capital and make a movie that may or may not resonate with the audience, you have a lot more visibility that way.
NFT In Film: There’s a lot of really cool things that you can do with the NFT space. It can be anything from IP to static images, to motion, to video, to music, whatever it may be. That poses a really interesting opportunity for creatives.
From the other side or from the fans or the consumers of content, there’s a lot of stuff that’s made for all these streaming platforms. You have Netflix, Amazon and Apple, which are trying to churn content given the way they make money. They make money from subscriber growth and they need to have more and more content. That content is getting churned out. I find myself in this paralysis of analysis. I’m sitting at home trying to watch something and I have no idea what to watch. I’ll scroll and scroll.
I care very little about any of these projects. I don’t know what’s good and what isn’t. It may be on a subject matter or a topic that I don’t care about. Whereas as a fan like with the Deadpool effect, people can influence what they want to see get made and care about it. I know that if I was involved in getting a film made with the filmmakers and the casts or the types of content and be able to interact with this, I’d be a lot more inclined to watch it, tell my friends about it and support it.
It reminds me of a lot of the NFT drops that are going on as of late. People are getting a taste for a model that works well and that is definitely around community and people feeling invested in the project. It’s not just that they spent their money on it, but they want to co-create it and have fun with it. They’re already engaged and involved. I could see you’re working with static NFTs in these communities. Clearly, it could work in the film industry.
It’s a more ubiquitous use case in a lot of ways than these static NFTs allow because fandom and Hollywood have gone together like peanut butter and jelly since the very beginning. The question for me around the genres is it sounds like you’re open-minded to the whole spectrum. You talked about everything from G-rated to maybe R-rated content that you’re doing from a traditional Hollywood rating system. Are you thinking about documentaries and all sorts of different types of late movies and shorts? Are you saying, “I’m wide open here. Let’s do cool stuff.” Where do you put the bumpers at this point?
We are agnostic in terms of what we’re going to do. At the same time, we’re still a relatively new project. We’re trying to disrupt a relatively archaic industry. The challenge for us at this point is trying to define some boundaries on what we are capable of and what works for our community. A case in point is we’ve had some great projects submitted to us that are not even in script form. They might be a five-page script for a movie.
To get into script development, it could be three years for you to finish a script. Who knows where the industry is going to be then? Crypto is a 24/7 marketplace where communities are interacting and engaging from around the world in different time zones. To have our community wait for three years for a script to get made and another year to get a movie made isn’t viable for us at this point.
Another thing is we want to avoid anything offensive for obvious purposes. The other thing would be financial constraints. If somebody wants to make a movie with Tom Cruise in space blowing up a whole bunch of stuff, it’s going to cost $300 million. That’s not something that we’re able to do at this point. I hope that point is near. Given the way how quickly crypto moves, it could be around the corner but at this point, we have to put some boundaries on what we accept before moving on to the platform.
We got an idea for a movie when you do get to that point. That’s Tom Cruise going into actual outer space and maybe even blowing up some planets or something. It would be awesome.
You can even race Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
Eathan’s working on a script. He should have it to you within the next few months, at least according to the commitment that he gave us about when it’s going to be ready. It’s something to look forward to. It’s on a topic that you never would have expected.
I’ll take a wild guess and say it’s not about cats and dogs.
No. Let’s say that the film industry is craving the next or first movie about the politics of the piano-tuning community. That’s where this is coming from.
I look forward to watching it. One thing I neglected to mention, which is important because we did talk about the NFT marketplace, is we’re creating this NFT marketplace catered towards the entertainment space. We’re doing this series of drops now with these celebrities in this movie. There are a lot of cool things that you can do with the NFT space. It can be everything from IP to static images, to motion video, to music, to whatever that may be. That poses an interesting opportunity for the creatives. Traditionally, if you’re a filmmaker or a music artist and you’re making content, you have very linear methods to distribute and monetize on that.
One of the best examples that I learned about how you could utilize NFTs is let’s say you have a filmmaker that has fans online and he’s done some stuff. He’s talented but unknown. Let’s say it’s George Lucas 25 or 40 years ago and he makes a short film and he needs $100,000 to do it. It will be tough to get $100,000 to fund a short film that may or not get distributed anywhere. That was in the present and we made a limited edition NFT for that short film for 100 copies or whatever it is. We sold those. He gets funded and he makes his project. He goes on to do Star Wars or some Academy Award.
The secondary market for those NFTs for that short film would benefit the users because now there is a much greater bid and there’s value. Imagine having the first piece of work from George Lucas prior to Star Wars or the Scorsese before the Godfather or any of these types of films. In a sense, you’re helping that filmmaker get to the next level by getting that short film made. As he bears success, so does a community that holds those NFTs.
Back to the filmmaker, instead of having to deal with an intermediary, he could build into the smart contract a royalty for those short films every time they transact. Now he has a revenue stream that’s helping him to make more work. He’s also engaging with the audience and communicating his vision for things, getting feedback from the community. It’s a lot more immersive and a powerful thing without anybody getting taken advantage of.
You hear very often about Hollywood accounting practices being much opaque in nature. People don’t know how the money’s being moved around. Movies make hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office but fail to make a profit when it comes down to paying out distributions, royalties and things like that. Blockchain is very powerful for that.
It’s fascinating. Having talked to some directors and producers about what goes into making a movie, I feel like they’re miracle workers at the end of the day, oftentimes with ridiculous, unknowns thrown at them every second. I’m sure when you add in blockchain in what you’re doing, while it brings additional benefits, there are also additional challenges and complexities. Can you talk a little bit about what you’ve run into and what you’re still trying to navigate?
The first thing that is the largest challenge or friction is the learning curve. DeFis, NFTs and crypto, once you’re immersed in it, I can tell you firsthand that it’s not that complicated but it looks complicated for somebody who’s not necessarily technical savvy or seeing this for the first time. Most people in the general public know crypto or blockchain from Bitcoin, Ethereum and Dogecoin. The proliferation of use cases for the blockchain has become a lot more apparent in a society of companies like Tesla and major institutional investors coming into the space.
For the most part, the average person doesn’t know much about blockchain, crypto, DeFi or NFTs. We’re speaking in a different language than them. A lot of the people that we may be interacting with have been doing the same thing for over 30 years. Now we need to shift that, disrupt it completely and say, “We’re going to try to take as much off-chain stuff, put it on-chain and interact with this community. We’re going to use Telegram.” “What’s Telegram? What’s Discord? How to use that? What’s this wallet address thing?” “You’re going to fund the movie. Are you going to give me fake internet money?”
How do we pay the actors and the union? There are many different variables that we have to educate these people on before they can fully embrace them. The success that we’ve had is that everybody we’ve been able to connect with and show them the tech that we’ve built and how they can navigate the ecosystem and the potential has more than embraced it. That’s very time-consuming.
Success breeds success and you’ve had some victories so far. What was the biggest one to date?
We sold $10 million of NFTs at the launch of our platform, it must have been back in April 2021. We had an NFT drop from a Marvel artist named Rob Prior. He is a talented guy. You guys have to check him out if you haven’t seen him already. He can paint with both hands at the same time. It’s savant-like capabilities and he makes cool art for all the studios and has a big fan following himself.
He’s joined our advisory team. We did a community-funded vote for a painting that he should paint. It was for a Wolf of Wall Street painting. The community voted on that and we did a live stream where nearly 500,000 people from around the world through various platforms streaming and watching this event in real-time. He has a blank white canvas and he creates this Wolf of Wall Street painting.
We turned it into an NFT and he burned the physical copy in front of the live audience. It was the first time an artist had burned their own work of art in physical form so it only exists in the blockchain. We auctioned it off and had a winning bet of nearly $200,000. There were some pretty well-known people, Floyd Mayweather and Snoop Dogg. We beat their NFT drops with the event.
The success has in great part to do with Rob’s engagement and involvement, talking to the community, interacting with them, educating them on his craft and his talents, having people appreciate that, and get involved in the process. That day, we had several million dollars of volume. Our token moved 200% to 300% on that day. We had some great feedback from everybody that was involved. His physical art has gone up in value by 6 or 7 times based on his last sale. It has a profound effect on him. We’re working on another NFT collection with him on a Stanley Collection, which will be cool.
You’ve got to be careful upsetting Snoop Dogg and Floyd Mayweather. You find your toes there.
I’m not saying they weren’t successful but we have to give kudos to Rob.
There’s a Twitter war brewing here. It’s something we can look forward to.
I sincerely hope not because I’m a big fan of both of them.
That’s all good fun. What about partnerships that you guys are working on? Can you tell us a little bit more about future partnerships that may be in the works here?
We’ve partnered up with a company called Bungalow Media, which is run by a guy who’s won an Academy Award and Emmy Award. They’ve done tons of films so we’re working on a couple of things with them. Terminal Station was the film that won and it’s going to be produced by their studio. That’s exciting. We have the Stanley Collection that I mentioned with Rob Prior. That’s going to be coming up after the Reboot Camp event that we have.
There’s a live premiere and an event that anybody that bids on the NFTs and wins will be able to attend. We’re working on a couple of other things with some of the creatives involved in Reboot Camp. We’re also working with a few other artists and musicians on trying to create some interesting things. I can’t yet announce those but we have some pretty cool things happening with people on the music side, film and TV side and art side.
This all leads to a question, where does this all go from here for Mogul over the next few years? What’s keeping you up at night? What are the aspirations that you have beyond the functionality that is available in your ecosystem?
The reason that I was drawn to this project is there’s an opportunity to make the space better. Better in the sense that there’s more transparency for the stakeholders and participants in the industry. From the people that are supposed to be getting royalties and distribution to the creatives that may not be able to raise money or get capital for their works of art or the content that they want to make. For the investors that are trying to participate in the industry without being taken advantage of. From the fans that haven’t had a voice and leveling the playing field for them. There’s an opportunity to disrupt and revolutionize the industry as a whole.
With what we’re doing, I know we’re the first to do it. We’re certainly not going to be the last. I know there have been a few other projects that have popped out that are trying to do similar things. We’re much welcome to that because it’s a big industry and there’s a lot of people that we have to convert to the blockchain and crypto side. We’re doing it one by one, organization by organization.
The advisory team that we have has been helpful. We’ve got a lot of inbound, people reaching out to us, well-known people, celebrities that have reached out to us, which has been cool. We’re trying to work with them on different projects that we can collaborate on whether it be on the film side, music side or even the NFT side. What I see down the road in 3 to 5 years out, which is an eternity in the land of crypto, is the way a lot of projects gets made in content is going to start taking place on the blockchain.
NFT In Film: NFTs of a short film would benefit the users because now there’s a much greater value.
Right now, a lot of it is off-chain that we have to use an Oracle to bring it on. As the industry gets more immersed and more people start using more high-profile celebrities, directors, producers and studios, the more stuff we can put on-chain. It means the better for the entire community and all the stakeholders involved. We don’t have to rely on any type of discrepancy or anything that could come up to human discretion or error.
For instance, we have a partnership with a company called AIOZ that allows us to do distribution on the blockchain. That’s a game-changer for anybody that’s trying to distribute a movie because one of the biggest problems is collecting. Imagine having to collect from twenty different countries around the world, getting paid on time, making sure that the numbers they’re giving you are factual, the costs involved, and all the marketing that has to be done. You can do this using our partner at a fraction of the cost without any of the uncertainty on how you’re going to get paid, and having a lot more transparency and ease. Now it’s not something that you’d have to go to Warner Brothers or Paramount to get distributed. Anybody could do that. It’s a barrier to entry.
I thought of another idea that I’m sure has crossed your mind. In podcasting, you deal with dynamic versus static ads. Let’s say Coca-Cola supports one of your projects but you could do that on a two-year contract. Potentially, with this type of experience, you could then switch it over to Pepsi if they’d buy the contract for the next five years. There’s this idea of dynamic sponsorship within movies too. That just came to my head.
It’s a great idea. I’m going to have to make a note of it because I hadn’t thought about it. That’s a good application and an opportunity there.
You guys got to start writing me and Josh into some of these smart contracts around this stuff. That’s all. Speaking of eternity in the land of crypto, we do get our guest’s perspectives on what’s coming next. We talked a lot about the film industry. We’d love to hear from you if you have any ideas about other areas in the film industry projects, platforms, either existing or yet to be formed that stand out to you as maybe game-changers here in 3, 5 or 10 years to eternity in the land of crypto?
If you look at the film industry like any other industry, there’s a value chain and there are different participants that play along that value chain. From the film financing side to the production side to the distribution side, and each of those different areas of the value chain has an application to be disrupted and optimized on the blockchain.
Distribution, for instance, there’s a handful of large streaming platforms like Disney, Apple, Netflix, etc. that have most of the content. Now, the entire industry shifted that. Films bypass theatrical releases, especially now with COVID, and go straight to streaming. That window is narrowed. I mentioned distribution. Imagine you could participate and get rewarded for watching content and being able to get a piece of the pie in terms of the advertising revenue. If you wanted to have advertising revenue, you could do so many things where you could reward users for a call to action.
Right now, the way things are set up is a one-way street. It’s not a two-way street in terms of how things get done. You have people in organizations that think this is the way the industry is going to go and they roll out certain initiatives. Even the way the entire platforms are set up, it’s a one-way street. The only thing that we get right now to a certain extent is data collection from our phones, how we browse to determine buying patterns but it’s still not anything that we have a choice in interacting and engaging with.
Our own data is being sold and we don’t reap any of the benefits. Being able to interact on the blockchain and the crypto community and be able to build smart contracts around certain things. Whatever it is, from product placement to distribution, your reward for streaming for how films get financed, how art music gets distributed using NFTs to create ancillary forms of revenue so distribution is not the only key could be very powerful. There’s so much potential. I could go on for hours but I think nobody wants to hear me for hours.
You’d be surprised. We’ll have to keep this conversation going in the future and check in with you on all your adventures. It’s certainly an industry that we see has unlimited potential like you. We share that ethos. We’d also love to get to know you as a person. We have a segment called Edge Quick Hitters that does that. Are you up for it?
I am.
Edge Quick Hitters are a fun and quick way to get to know you a little bit better. They’re ten questions and we’re looking for a short, single or a few-worded response but feel free to expand if you get the urge.
Question one, what is the first thing you remember ever purchasing in your life?
A sour ball. Do you remember the sour balls? They’re sour large candies.
Does it turn your mouth green or something?
Yeah.
We’ve had kids candy a few times. That makes sense. It’s also becoming increasingly clear that the candy has to be extreme in some way. It’s got to turn you in a weird color. Nobody’s mentioned Pop Rocks yet.
Pop Rocks came later in life. I don’t want to date myself but I remember buying Popeye cigarette candies, where you could smoke cigarettes.
What are you, 70? What’s going on?
Now that you’re saying that, I had those too. Question number two, what is the first thing you remember ever selling in your life?
I used to collect hockey cards. I remember selling hockey cards. I used to trade and sell hockey and baseball cards. The olden way of collectibles. The old world.
That industry is booming again. I heard something about there being a one-year wait to get your cards marked right now. It’s interesting that traditional collectibles are coming back as well.
O-Pee-Chee and Topps are still around.
Question number three, what is the most recent thing that you’ve purchased?
Milk for my daughter, 3%.
I didn’t know they had 3%.
I like 7.25% myself.
My wife’s got me off of milk. I’m having all the other stuff that can be milk, oats, nuts and all types of stuff.
On the flip side of that, what is the most recent thing that you sold?
It was crypto. When we had this dip, I ended up selling a bunch of crypto for USDT stablecoins.
This is the point where we have to remind the readers that this show is not investment advice.
I would have loved it if you said that you rode the AMC stock up to be invested in your company. Question five, what is your most prized possession?
As I’ve gotten older, I’ve started to care less and less about things. It’s not a good answer because I don’t care about anything anymore. I used to care about watches and all that stuff. Probably functionality like my computer and my laptop. My entire world lives on the laptop. I’m on it right now. If somebody stole it or it broke, it would be bad.
Question six, if you could buy anything in the world, digital, physical, service or experience that’s currently for sale, what would it be?
I would love to go to space. I don’t have that many billion dollars or any billion dollars yet but that’s an experience that only a few human beings will ever have. Being able to go to space and look into the abyss and look back down on Earth would be a cool experience.
Eventually, it’s going to be Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Tom Cruise and you. It’s putting it all together.
Hopefully, I can hitch a ride with Tom on his way down there. That’d be cool.
Next question, if you could pass on one of your personality traits to the next generation, what would it be?
Patience is something that I’m even starting to lose a little bit and I see it with my daughter and everything with movies. If you look at old movies, there’s no running the credits in the beginning now in a movie. Nobody has patience for that. Stuff has to blow up. All this stuff has to happen. You consume news and everything in a line or two. That’s not the way you consume news. That’s not the way you can see a great story.
NFT In Film: Our own data is being sold, and we don’t reap any of the benefits. But, being able to interact on the blockchain and the crypto community allows us to build smart contracts around certain things using NFTs to create ancillary forms of revenue.
I’m envisioning that period in history where people started to walk out on movies when things got too long. They’re like, “We’ve got to make this thing shorter.”
Nobody can be bored because you have your phone or whatever. When I was a kid, you sit down, you shut up, and you’d be bored. Be patient. The parents are talking.
Next question, on the flip side, if you could eliminate one of your personality traits from the next generation, what would that be?
I think I tend to overanalyze things.
Are you sure you’re overanalyzing things? Are you sure that’s your final answer? What if it was different? I’m kidding.
I had that thought process in my head.
It’s like, “Is this a good answer?”
It’s good to be diligent in doing your homework and analyzing things but you can get crippled by analyzing things too much.
The secret is having a good partnership where you have at least two people. One wants to get started on things and the other wants to sit down and draw up a plan. Put them together and they’ll argue sometimes but you’ll probably get a good outcome there.
Let’s move on to question number nine. What did you do before joining us on the show?
I got this Mogul hat on.
I like that hat.
I like the logo and everything. I put on this collar shirt for this interview and this hat. I got post-pandemic since 2020. It’s been a while since I’ve worn a collared shirt or anything other than a ripped t-shirt.
Clothing is optional these days when you’re on a podcast or Zoom with the video. What are you going to do after the show?
I’m going to work on a presentation and spend some time with my family. It’s work, family, eating and repeat. Rinse and repeat every day.
This was a super fun interview. I’m glad to have you on Edge of NFT. We hope to have you back again at some point in the future. I’m excited to see where everything goes with your venture, which is changing the film industry in real-time. Where can readers go to learn more about you and the projects that you’re working on?
You can go to MogulProductions.com and there’s a lot of information. There are links to our Telegram, Discord, Twitter, etc. That’s probably the best place. I always urge anybody who’s listening to any podcast or any talking head like me to do their own homework. Use your favorite search engine and see what you can find. Go through the materials we have on our team, what we’ve done and our track records.
You come into the community and hit us up. We’ll respond. We’re there if you have any questions. I’d love to meet everybody and get input, see stuff that we can do better and stuff that we’re not doing well enough, and give us that feedback. We’re a new company and there are lots of iterations to where things are going to be. It’s a constantly changing and evolving story for us.
Speaking of joining the community, we’re doing a giveaway that entails one all-access pass that our audience can win. What’s that all about?
Our STARS token, which is the native token to our project, is used as an in-app currency to be able to interact within our platform. These all-access passes will give community members or a user the ability to get rewards and experiences, giveaways within our platform anytime we’re doing an NFT drop or a feature film. There’s that event that we have taking place in LA around the Reboot Camp with Ja Rule and David Koechner and the rest of the cast. To be able to go to events like that, those are some of the types of experiences if we’re funding a film. You would be able to spend the day on set, meet the stars and do a Zoom. We offer those types of experiences that make the crypto community experience a lot more three-dimensional. That’s powerful and very cool.
That’s amazing. Thank you so much for offering that to the community. We have a lot of followers in LA. I’m sure they’re going to be excited about competing for that pass.
If one of our followers in the Philippines gets that, they’re going to have a lot of traveling to do.
It’s well worth the travel though. I don’t know how LA is right now. It’s been a while. It’s one of my favorite places because you have everything. You have the weather, the mountains, the ocean and Vegas.
This has been an incredible episode. We’re excited about what you’re doing. We’re proud to be able to get to know you a little bit better. You’re blazing the trails here. We’ve reached the outer limit at the Edge of NFTs for this episode. Thanks for exploring with us. We’ve got space for more adventures on the starship so invite your friends and recruit some cool strangers that will make this journey all so much better.
How? Go to iTunes, rate us and say something awesome. Go to EdgeOfNFT.com to dive further down the rabbit hole. If you want to help co-create Edge of NFT, or you’ve got a guest you want to see on the episode, or questions for the hosts or guests, or an NFT you’d like us to review, drop us a line at Contact@EdgeOfNFT.com or tweet at us @EdgeOfNFT to get in the mix. Lastly, be sure to tune in next time for more great NFT content.
Thanks again for sharing your time with us.
Thanks for having me. This was great. I appreciate you guys for spending the time with me.
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- DINOMONKS
- Roman Tirone – Past Episode
- Rob Prior
- Bungalow Media
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- Discord – Mogul Productions
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